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Descendants of
William and Susannah Piggin of Elvaston, Derbyshire
It is presumed that this family is descended from the yeoman Piggin family that had been farming since at least Jacobean times in Elvaston. Thulston (also spelled Thurlaston or Thurleston) is one of the three townships making up Elvaston parish. See in particular the land records and the story of the William Piggin charity.
The parish church of Elvaston is in the grounds of a large country house about 4 miles from Spondon, and neighbours Thulston. Thulston has no parish church of its own. Three Piggin graves were visible and intact at Elvaston graveyard on a visit in 2004. -- Paul Piggin. For more details of "Elvaston Castle", see Kelly's
Joseph
~ 1788/10/05 Elvaston
Date of death unknown
Josiah
~ 1793/11/17 Elvaston
% Jane --- (possibly the woman who died 1838 aged 50)
+ 1853/05/03 (Josiah Piggin of Thulston aged 59)
Joseph, agricultural labourer
born Thulston
~ 16 January 1820, Elvaston
married Mary --- (c1819-95), 1841d at Burton-on-Trent
the following children died in infancy:
  • Josiah 1846-46
  • George 1858-58
  • Ellenor 1861-61
living at Thulston at 1851 census (HO107/2140/577)
living at Elvaston, Derbyshire, in 1871 census
died 1884a aged 64
I. William, innkeeper, later farmer
* 1842b, Winsrope (Winshill?) in Burton on Trent district
~ 29 May 1842, Elvaston
% Frances "Fanny" Moult 1866 Derby
She apparently died 1867 April, just after Joseph's birth
% Mary Ann Turner (c1850-1910), date not found, but possibly 1869a in Derby district, though this makes nonsense of one birth date at right: check!
living at 1881 census at The Wheel Inn, Hulland Ward, Derbyshire, not there in 1891
family tradition is that he married twice and had 21 children in all
Occupation: (1881) innkeeper and farmer of five acres at Hulland Ward, DBY; (1897 marriage witness at Cossington, LEC) farmer; (1910, wife's death) grazier of Thurmaston, LEC
+ 1923d, buried 1923 Dec 7 at Thurmaston Parish Church, LEC, described as aged 81 years, of Myrthe Cottage Farm Witherly
A. Joseph John
* 1866d, Derby
~ 1867/08/25 Elvaston
% Harriet Oliver (c1868-1946)
% ---- Sharratt, 1946
+ 1958
B. Mary E.
* 1868d Derby
~ 1874/03/29, Littleover
C. William
* 1871b Derby
~ 1874/03/29, Littleover
% Elizabeth Thomson
D. Thomas Arthur
* 1874a, Shardlow
~ 1874/03/29 Littleover
% --- --- 1897
+ 1948
E. Florence Emma
* 1875a Shardlow
~ 1875/12/26, Littleover
% --- --- 1898
F. Edith
* 1877c, Ashbourne
~ 1877/06/10, Hulland
% --- --- 1907
G. Beatrice Annie
* 1878d/09/25, Hulland Ward, Ashbourne district
% Thomas J. Shipley (1870-1947) in 1897 at Cossington (Barrow on Soar registration dist.)
lived Swannington, Leics.
+ 1973
H. Jane
* 1880b, Hulland Ward, Ashbourne district
% --- ---, 1909
J. John James R
* 1881c, Ashbourne
% --- --- 1902, Leicester
K. Richard
* 1882d, Ashbourne
L. Ernest Edward
(still at home in 1901 census)
* 1884b, Shardlow
M. Percy Turner
* 1887b, Shardlow
(still at home in 1901 census)
N. Alfred
* 1888d, Shardlow
(still at home in 1901 census)
P. Daisy
* 1890b, Shardlow
(still at home in 1901 census)
% --- Schafer, 1919, Barrow-on-Soar
Q. Violet
* 1891d, Shardlow
(still at home in 1901 census)
R. Frank
(still at home in 1901 census)
* 9 April 1894 (1894b Shardlow)
% --- Hubbard? 1921 Barrow? or (Frank Wesley P. 1903-)?
+ 1974a, Leicester
II. Arthur
* 1843b, Winsrope (Winshill?) Burton on Trent; 30 May 1843, Burton on Trent
servant in Samuel Oulds' public house, St Werburgh, Derby 1861, aged 18
shoemaker at Elvaston in 1871 census, single aged 28
+ 1908c, Shardlow "aged 66"
III. Martha Jane
* 1844c, Thulston, Shardlow district; ~ 20 October 1844 Elvaston
% (--- --- 1865a, Ashby-de-la-Zouch)?
+ ?
IV. Thomas
* 1847b, Thulston, Shardlow district; ~ 20 April 1847 Elvaston
+ 1915b, Shardlow
V. Jane
* 1849a, Thulston, Shardlow district; ~ 8 April 1849 Elvaston
VI. Joseph
*1850b, Thulston, Shardlow district;
~ 19 May 1850 Elvaston
possibly + 1937 Ashby-de-la-Zouch
VII. Elizabeth
* 1853b, Shardlow district; ~ 10 July 1853 Elvaston
VIII. John
* 1855b, Shardlow district;
~ 6 May 1855 Elvaston
possibly same as John, 16, servant on farm of Wm. Radford at Elvaston 1871
and also John, 23, servant on farm of Martha Stretton at Stapleford, 1881 (RG11/3391/72)
+ 1898c, Shardlow
IX. James
* 1856d, Thulston, Shardlow district;
~ 1 March 1857 Elvaston
% Jane Sharpe, 1878
staying as visitor at Newfield China Row, Moira at 1881 census
+ 1918
A. Mary Jane "Piggins"
* 1878d, Moira, Ashby-de-la-Zouch district
% --- 1906?
B. John
* 1881b, Ashby-de-la-Zouch
Is he the John James P. who married in 1902 and possibly fathered Violet Ivy and Frank Wesley? Probably not. We assume Violet's and Frank's father was the "John James R." above.
+ 1957
C. Thomas
*1883b, Ashby
% Emmie Philipinna Illsley (or Illslet)
+ 1927d, Ashby
D. Fanny
* 1885b, Ashby
X. Mary Ann
* 1859d Shardlow district; ~ 20 May 1860 Elvaston
XI. Amelia
* 1863b Shardlow district; ~ 14 June 1863 Elvaston
at Elvaston in 1871 census aged 7
+ 1872b, Shardlow
XII. Fanny
* 1865b, Shardlow district; ~ 13 August 1865 Elvaston
at Elvaston in 1871 census aged 5
William
+ 1801/07/10 Elvaston (son of William and Susannah)


James PIGGIN, agricultural labourer of Thulston, Derbyshire.
* circa 1796
% Sarah Allen (c1795-187_) of Rolleston, Staffs.
lived 1851 at ..... (HO107/2140/551)
+ after 1871, possibly 1873 "aged 70"
William PIGGIN, labourer in ironworks (1871)
~ 16 May 1828, Alvaston
% Phoebe Ann Robinson (1830-1896) 25 Dec 1852
they lived Chapel Terrace, Alvaston, Derbyshire (1871)
+ 1910c, Derby, aged 82
I. John, provision dealer, 39 Millgate, Wigan (1891)
* 1853c, Shardlow district; ~ 21 August 1853, Alvaston
% Margaret Woosnam, 1877c, Wigan
Died in infancy:
  • Geo. Herb. 1884-85
+ 1908b aged 54, Wigan
A. John, 11 Acton Street, Wigan, grocer
* 1878c, Wigan
% Mary Alice ---, 1908, Wigan (c1880-1933)
+ 1950, Wigan
B. William, mill manager
* 1880c, Wigan
+ 1956, Stockport
then living at 6 Cavendish Road, Heaton, Mersey
C. Phoebe Ann
* 1882b, Wigan
% --- Jones
+ after 1957 when she was a widow
D. Margaret
* 1886b, Wigan
% John G. Arrowsmith, 1915, Wigan
+ after 1957
E. Bessie
* 1888c, Wigan
+ 1899a, Wigan
II. Elizabeth
* 1854d, Shardlow district
~ 1854/12/10, Alvaston
% James Bennett ( -1905), 1883 Wigan: five children
It is said that she worked for Sir Thomas Lipton of Lipton tea fame to support her children
+ 1937/08/14 at Detroit, Michigan. Buried in Grandlawn Cemetery, Detroit
III. Mary
* 1856c, Shardlow
~ 1856/08/03, Alvaston
% Charles Woodward 1879/09/06
+ 1889/05/01 Boulton
IV. William Allen
* 1858c, Shardlow district; ~ 19 August 1858, Alvaston
% Annie Clark (1862-1944), 1884 Derby
A William Piggin was a prominent cricketer who played for the Alvaston and Boulton Cricket Club (see for example The Derby Mercury of 1890-10-01): he may have been this William, or else perhaps the youth born in 1871 (above).
WA Piggin emigrated to QLD with part of his family, arriving 14 September 1913
+ 20 November 1924, Maryborough, QLD
A. Phoebe
* 1881, Crewton
% Joe Burnett
arr QLD 1914
+
B. John
* 1882c, Derby (Crewton)
+ 1918/12/21 Howard, Queensland
C. George
* 1883, Crewton
% Kate ---, n.i.
+ ?
D. Sarah Elizabeth
* 1885, Crewton
% Ed Nelson
+ ?
E. Thomas John L.
* 1888d, Derby
F. Ernest Sewel
* 1889, Crewton (not registered)
% Agnes Mary Craig 1910, Derby: 1 ch + inf 1911-1912
emigrated to QLD, he on Roscommon 1914/03/09, she on Waipara 1915/03/02
+ 1959, Maryborough
G. Brittania (Frances) to QLD 1913
* 1890b, Shardlow district
% Robert Buffey 1913/05/08
+ 1921/02/06, Maryborough, Queensland
H. Mary, to QLD 1918
* 26 January 1896a, Crewton, Derby
% ---
+
J. Joseph (Allen?) to QLD 1913
* 1898d, Shardlow
+ 1942/01/15, Maryborough
K. Stella, to QLD 1913
* 1901d, Shardlow district
% Jim Roy
+
L. Arthur Edwin, to QLD 1913
* 1904a, Derby district
% Doris Christianson
+
M. Ada
*
+
V. Phoebe Ann (1881: domestic servant, Wigan)
* 1861b, Shardlow district; ~ 6 October 1861, Alvaston
% Edwin Lowe 1884, Wigan
+
VI. Sarah
* 1863c, Alvaston
+ 1885b, Shardlow
VII. Ellen
* 1866c, Alvaston
+ 1885/06/04 Alvaston
VIII. George
* 13 December 1870, Alvaston; 1871a, Shardlow
% Ellen Jane Seal, 1896, Shardlow
he was a railway labourer at 1901 census
+ 1944c, Derby, aged 73
A. Phoebe Ellen
* 1897a, Shardlow
Mary PIGGIN, net mender
* c1832, Alvaston, Derbyshire (poss. ~ 16 Oct 1830)
not married, lived with her parents James P. and Sarah ALLEN
+ 1912b, Derby
I. Joseph
* 1859d, Shardlow; ~ 1 January 1860, Alvaston
+ 1938c, Manchester South, aged 78
See Derby Page for an alternative identification of him

With especial thanks to June Pedley and David Coles for their painstaking work in compiling these two charts. We hope one day to discover how the two families above are related and how they descend from the wealthy yeoman farming family of Piggin.

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